Summary:
Negative... at -$1149.33:Days like today leave me wondering if I have any idea at all as to what I am doing.
The morning was choppy, and I came in on APC with a lot of stops... seems it ran out of momo as soon as I started trading it. In retrospect, I would have taken them all again, just the way the morning was.
I didn't feel like I fell apart today. Of course I am disappointed, but I felt like I was consistent in my trading. Here is how things went profit wise:
I don't think I did anything much differently today compared to how I traded last week, but there is obviously something wrong with my approach.
First - let's look at the things I did do differently:
- I traded more stocks. Today I traded 8 stocks, but 3 stocks only saw one trade, so I don't think this contributed to today's losses.
- I had a lot more trades today and I had very few entries with direction and stops; but I had several entries with direction after the stop. In hindsight, I felt myself chasing some entries today, which very likely contributed to this.
- I didn't listen to Scott's MP3 today. Heh, now I am getting superstitious. I mentally reviewed several of the statements/principals and I felt relaxed and confident all day.
Where did I go wrong? Too much trading. Reading too much into the candles. Not having a sense of the momo. This is a fairly consistent theme for me. Again - I don't think I traded much differently than I did last week, it is just that the market was more forgiving last week. I think I need to re-evaluate exactly what it is I am doing here.
After I started reviewing the trades, I decided to go back and set up the charts against the Q's to see if I could find a pattern for which of my trades actually worked. Heh. There is a pattern - THE MARKET - but unfortunately I didn't trade on the market today - at all. I think I have noticed this before. Pfft.
Scott traded some of the same stocks I did today. As a comparison and just in case I might actually learn something, I marked his trades on my TNA and APOL charts. Humble pie. One trade on APOL kind of matches (the last one of his and the last three of mine... lol); and I caught something like part of his short in something like a gazzillion entries on TNA (his 9:20 entry). I am seeing things, way too many things, and not the right things. Mine are like graffiti on his Mona Lisas. His are punctuated with market indecision and then direction, mine are simply indecisive. (These are at the bottom of the details if you are interested. Red marks his short entry/exit, lime green a long entry/exit.)
I was not paying close enough attention to the market today - and reading the candles before they were candles. I was focused, but just not on the right thing. I think that those are my biggest problems.
If you notice anything else, feel free to expound.
On a side note: I upgraded to Trade-Ideas Pro to try it out today, it does not even compare to the Lightspeed ticker. The Lightspeed ticker gives a much better sense of the market I think. Also - strangely enough, it was pretty much steady all day today, with the occasional flare up; sign of an unforgiving market?
Detail:
APC: Morning chopfest. Stop after stop. Finally some direction on the 8:30, with some messiness in the middle on the continuation, and finished with a long. All the stops were reasonably executed... this looks busy, but the stops led me to reverses, which got stopped again (-$258.69):
APOL: Caught my attention after the 9:00 and I entered on the retrace. I saw continuations on the downtrend three times from 10:00 to 10:15. I didn't have the heart to go long after the third try (but the market was signalling). I couldn't seem to get direction at the top. The market's long green at 12:10 spooked me out of the 12:05 position. Posting the Q's for comparison (+$238.03):
BP (-$188.43):
CF (-$63.05):
CREE (-$73.58):
CRM: Bad bit of luck on this one (-56.30):
CVC: Great trend, came in with a short as the market was goofing around and the new candle dropped below the prior close, coming off a high wick. Reversed as it turned around and bailed as the market kept going down.Then got stopped on the short at the top. I thought it made sense to go long with the green market, but nobody else did (-$140.84):
TNA: too much chasing with poor entry price. I think I will wire the money next time, less of a hassle (-$606.46):
And - as an exercise in humility and a little bonus, here are my trades on APOL as compared to Scott's:
And TNA:
this has to be your wittiest post ever. apc is nasty compared to the q's. i didn't realize cree trades so well with the q's.
ReplyDeletesettle down, relax, wait for those candles...
you'll get 'em tomorrow.
dtf- stop trading TNA
ReplyDeleteHeh - I should probably take it off the watch list so I can't possibly be tempted...
ReplyDeleteAPOL and APC were probably mot characteristic of your mistakes. Notice how with APC you literally traded none of the momentum in the morning, and started trading just as it went into chop mode.
ReplyDeleteI remember you saying in Skype yesterday that you are a momentum trader, and chop kills you. If this is true, you have to stick to the times when momentum is the best, which is usually the mornings and the afternoons.
What makes you feel like you just HAVE to trade no matter what the market conditions are? Scott seems to be the person you are trying to emulate, but looking at his trades on TNA, they are fewer and more decisive. What are you trying to accomplish when you trade so much? Good questions to ask yourself
dtf my brother, so i was at the gym, thinking about the day and this is what i have concluded. why do you trade 500 shares, is that part of your plan? my trading buddy once said to me, what is your goal, how many shares do you need to get there and trade accordingly. and to be honest, i had never thought about that. so all day long, i was hitting out for .10 or .15, then i realized i need to hold longer.
ReplyDeletelets say my goal is 500/day. i know my winning % is 40%, so i need 4 trades of 200 shares to go $1 (or 4 trades of 400 shares to go .50) , 6 losing trades of $50 each, and i am at my $500 mark. what is your daily goal and change your share size accordingly.
here is another thing i found which if i had NT, i think it would be pretty sweet:
http://positionsizer.com/products now, we know you are comfortable with losing $50. so, you find your stock, set where you want the stop loss, and i believe this software varies your share size accordingly. now, when i traded this way (van tharp position sizing) i found myself just hunting the stocks with the lowest risk so i could grab the most amount of shares. and thats the problem, because if you have a .50 stop, then you only grab 100 shares, and it goes 2 dollars, you only made $200. but if you did you normal 500, then you would have $2k, huge difference. so, just food for thought.
p.s. your ability to go for it inspires me. you constantly keep pushing your bounds and limits. keep it up man.
Thanks for the good word bro.
ReplyDelete500 shares is just a nice number - heh. I could cut shares back down, but I think if I do that, I may as well go back to paper trading (which might be the best course of action). If I am cutting back because I want decrease my losses, then it probably means I shouldn't be trading period. The 500 number means a loss that I can handle psychologically - at least I think so.
I am stymied. No clue what to do. I need to figure out how to handle days like today and yesterday. You need to give me some of your mojo =)
And to think... the DOW was up over 200 points today... lol.
unreal, i had no idea the dow was up that much. its so funny when when we trade, we just trade the market, back and forth. if someone was to ask me yesterday how much the market was up, i would have no clue, ha! all that matters to us is its moving.
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